Pass the policeman 'pon the left hand side
I’m back from holidays now so it’s time for you all to get back into some hard hitting, insightful Australian commentary, or, failing that, this blog.
Today’s topic is Drug Driving. No, I’m not talking about driving to get drugs; I’m talking about driving under the influence of drugs. The reason that you may have heard of this recently is that here in Queensland the police have just been given the equipment to test drivers for marijuana, ecstasy and amphetamines as well as new legislation to charge them under. Similar legislation has been at work in Victoria, South Australia and possibly some other states for some time now.
Now most people would probably think that testing the person operating a fast moving, two tonne block of steel for mind-altering drugs would be a good thing, and I was initially inclined to agree, but as usual, the devil is in the detail.
The great flaw in this plan is a little phrase that tough-on-whatever politicians love to throw around, ‘Zero Tolerance’. In terms of Drug Driving this means that they are not testing drivers to see if they are under the influence of illegal drugs, they are testing to see if the driver has any illegal drugs in their system, even if it is not affecting them in any way. Here it is straight from the police horse’s mouth, from the drug driving fact sheet.
What level of drugs can be detected without penalty?
"There will be zero tolerance. Any trace of the nominated drugs in your system and you can be penalised. "
This would probably be more acceptable if it were not for the total lack of information about how long these illegal drugs stay in a person’s system. From the same pamphlet:
How long after consuming illegal drugs can they be detected?
"The detection period for the active ingredient in the relevant drug varies depending on factors such as the quantity and quality of the drug that has been ingested, the frequency of use of the drug and the period of time since taking the drug."
That is surely the most useless paragraph ever written. Are they talking hours, days, weeks? Could you imagine if the Drink Driving laws were this vague? It would be funny were it not describing a real offence you or I could be charged with.
Well actually, not you or I, just people who take illegal drugs, but the fact that this concerns drug users is beside the point. This is a poorly executed law that, while detecting and punishing some people for driving in a dangerous state, will also punishing people for doing something that is not dangerous to anyone. We should be asking ourselves whether this is an acceptable side effect.
If they had a test that detected if a person was high on a certain drug then I would have absolutely no objection to these laws. Make it just like alcohol. Determine a concentration of the drug that is likely to cause a level of intoxication in most people and use that as a threshold. Perfect. You’d catch the dangerous drivers and we could all sleep easier. But charging someone who smoked a joint the night before with the same offence as someone who moments ago injected crystal-meth into their eye-balls just seems, well, crazier than someone who has just injected crystal-meth into their eye-balls.
Now I don’t want to come across as pro-drugs here, I want to come across as anti-bad laws. If we want to punish people for taking drugs then charge them with exactly that. There are probably laws for just that already, but they are certainly not in the traffic act.
Ok, maybe I’m being a little too objectionist here, and maybe objectionist is not a word, but what is a word is duty and it’s our duty to question new laws, especially new laws that involve emotionally charged topics like illegal drugs and our shockingly high road toll. It seems that no one except the pro-pot groups are questioning these laws, and they are not exactly known for their persistence.
I could be wrong. Maybe these laws will save thousands of lives every year. Maybe the thresholds for detection are perfectly aligned with ‘highness’ and they will only catch actual drug drivers. I personally reckon they will catch quite a few dangerous drivers, but in the process also financially cripple a whole bunch of innocent people (with respect to DUI) who can’t afford the $1050 fine.
Will it be worth it? Maybe yes, maybe no, but we should at least be asking the question.
Today’s topic is Drug Driving. No, I’m not talking about driving to get drugs; I’m talking about driving under the influence of drugs. The reason that you may have heard of this recently is that here in Queensland the police have just been given the equipment to test drivers for marijuana, ecstasy and amphetamines as well as new legislation to charge them under. Similar legislation has been at work in Victoria, South Australia and possibly some other states for some time now.
Now most people would probably think that testing the person operating a fast moving, two tonne block of steel for mind-altering drugs would be a good thing, and I was initially inclined to agree, but as usual, the devil is in the detail.
The great flaw in this plan is a little phrase that tough-on-whatever politicians love to throw around, ‘Zero Tolerance’. In terms of Drug Driving this means that they are not testing drivers to see if they are under the influence of illegal drugs, they are testing to see if the driver has any illegal drugs in their system, even if it is not affecting them in any way. Here it is straight from the police horse’s mouth, from the drug driving fact sheet.
What level of drugs can be detected without penalty?
"There will be zero tolerance. Any trace of the nominated drugs in your system and you can be penalised. "
This would probably be more acceptable if it were not for the total lack of information about how long these illegal drugs stay in a person’s system. From the same pamphlet:
How long after consuming illegal drugs can they be detected?
"The detection period for the active ingredient in the relevant drug varies depending on factors such as the quantity and quality of the drug that has been ingested, the frequency of use of the drug and the period of time since taking the drug."
That is surely the most useless paragraph ever written. Are they talking hours, days, weeks? Could you imagine if the Drink Driving laws were this vague? It would be funny were it not describing a real offence you or I could be charged with.
Well actually, not you or I, just people who take illegal drugs, but the fact that this concerns drug users is beside the point. This is a poorly executed law that, while detecting and punishing some people for driving in a dangerous state, will also punishing people for doing something that is not dangerous to anyone. We should be asking ourselves whether this is an acceptable side effect.
If they had a test that detected if a person was high on a certain drug then I would have absolutely no objection to these laws. Make it just like alcohol. Determine a concentration of the drug that is likely to cause a level of intoxication in most people and use that as a threshold. Perfect. You’d catch the dangerous drivers and we could all sleep easier. But charging someone who smoked a joint the night before with the same offence as someone who moments ago injected crystal-meth into their eye-balls just seems, well, crazier than someone who has just injected crystal-meth into their eye-balls.
Now I don’t want to come across as pro-drugs here, I want to come across as anti-bad laws. If we want to punish people for taking drugs then charge them with exactly that. There are probably laws for just that already, but they are certainly not in the traffic act.
Ok, maybe I’m being a little too objectionist here, and maybe objectionist is not a word, but what is a word is duty and it’s our duty to question new laws, especially new laws that involve emotionally charged topics like illegal drugs and our shockingly high road toll. It seems that no one except the pro-pot groups are questioning these laws, and they are not exactly known for their persistence.
I could be wrong. Maybe these laws will save thousands of lives every year. Maybe the thresholds for detection are perfectly aligned with ‘highness’ and they will only catch actual drug drivers. I personally reckon they will catch quite a few dangerous drivers, but in the process also financially cripple a whole bunch of innocent people (with respect to DUI) who can’t afford the $1050 fine.
Will it be worth it? Maybe yes, maybe no, but we should at least be asking the question.
17 Comments:
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Firsty McFirst, At
9 January 2008 08:36
You have some interesting points here. Although I think your view on the zero tolerance policy is misinterpreted.
I think there are some hidden agendas there. Firstly it would deter any drug users from getting on the road. I have to admit I am guilty of doing a few drug driving myself, but now with the zero tolerance I am having second thoughts whenever I get offered some freebies at *cough*Matts*cough* place.
Secondly, illegal drugs is well, illegal. So you might argue that you are not under the influence to drive like a maniac on road rage, but that still doesn't explain why you have illegal drugs in your system to the coppers.
In the end, the drug testing only happens in RBT stations...so we can always take our chances and take the suburban route! Do you feel lucky?
p.s. you're a tosser mcfirst :P
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Ray the 2nd, At
9 January 2008 20:07
Anon Ray,
Firstly I think if the history of drug use has taught us anything it's that people will take drugs despite everything, and that the best strategies are to do with harm minimisation not prohibition or scare tactics.
I would argue that the cops saying "You can't drive for 4 hours after smoking pot" would result in most people not driving for 4 hours. While the cops saying "You can't drive at all if you smoke pot" would result in most people saying "fuck it, I could get done anytime so I might as well drive now", which is much more dangerous.
As to the second point, they pamphlet says if they suspect you have drugs they can search your car. So if you have drugs on you then you're fucked, but you would pretty much expect that.
My main point is that someone should not be charged with driving under the influence of drugs when they are in fact not under the influence of drugs. These laws look like they will do just that.
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Sam Cox, At
9 January 2008 22:04
Also, my lawyer big sister reckons that these laws do look a little shaky and will probably be challenged in court sooner or later. That's apparently the way laws work. They are put in, challenged, refined, repeat.
But I'm betting my 'bong hits for Jesus' t-shirt that 90% of the people who appear in court on these charges will be on legal aid and the rest who can afford lawyers will sure as hell not want the publicity of challenging a drug law.
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Sam Cox, At
9 January 2008 22:15
Excellent insight, Sam. As you say, the law is inherently too open-ended; I wonder what they were thinking? Legislation (at least in theory) goes through a fair amount of scrutiny before it's enacted... though maybe with a non-existent opposition and no upper house in Queensland's government, any old crap is getting through.
Since I believe your lawyerly sibling is correct--that the badness will be diluted via judicial precedent--is any action required? I'm still uncertain what ordinary people (i.e., us) can actually do that would be meaningful. Is speaking out enough? In what forum? Should we harass our local member? Write them a letter which would almost certainly be ignored?
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jason, At
10 January 2008 05:24
Well, at first I was gunna write off this rant as just another 'meth-eye injector' beat-up (leave us alone already - pick on someone else!) but upon closer inspection I have found that there is a little more going on.
We've had these laws in SA for ages now and while everyone initially shat their dacks at the idea of going to gaol for post-emptive(?) weed smoking, I have never once seen the dreaded Budz Bus or know of anyone who has been Done by it.
I must also point out the sheer hypocrisy of the Govt Vs Drugs situation. If you are serious: park a Drug Bus outside every rave and all those clubs that OPEN at 6am - would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Ditto the courts and bars frequented by lawyers. Likewise, stake out all those bong shops (they sell crack pipes now too) and the hydro stores - follow people home and bust them. Even in Qld you can buy an "illegal" bong and take it home - but if they are SERIOUS why not bust you the minute you step outside the shop?
Oh that's right: it's all bullshit. I forget that sometimes hehehe
I am with Bill Hicks on this one. They should not only make pot LEGAL but for some folks it should just be downright MANDATORY. All those lane-swerving, road-raging rush-hour, tail-gater fucks that give me fuel for my human hate-machine every day? well the police should pull them over and laydown The Law...
"Hey buddy, couldn't help but notice you were taking life seriously: now smoke this! DO IT... it's The Law"
PS Where's yr follow up on the Labour net laws? You should call it "New Boss, Same as the Old Boss". Boy I can't wait for the next 'boat of illegals' to see how closely Labour's immigration policies align with the Coalition. Woah Nelly, hold on!!
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Glancey, At
10 January 2008 09:54
For once I agree with Sam. If you can't find out if what your doing is illegal or not then the law is broken.
Maybe someone should try calling a police station and asking they knew timeframes. A friend and I did that when we were arguing over whether it was legal for a passenger to have an open beer in a car, and we finally got to talk to someone who could tell us it wasn't legal.
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Michael, At
10 January 2008 10:54
Glancey, RE: Labor's net approach. Can't be arsed responding right now, but check out Michael's post 'Fuck You Labor' for a taste.
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Sam Cox, At
10 January 2008 11:27
Nobody fucks with McFirst, Raymond. Nobody.
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firsty mcfirst, At
10 January 2008 13:07
I take that back, Raymond...you are a dead set legend!
I bow before you, master!
My mom is available for your pleasure, please take her as a gift from your humble servant!
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firsty mcfirst, At
10 January 2008 13:40
Why can't we all just get along?
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pass me my car keys, my crack pipe and my hand gun, At
10 January 2008 16:54
If you kids don't start behaving I swear I'll turn this car right around!
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Sam Cox, At
10 January 2008 17:07
So apart from Michael and Jason all of you guys take drugs on a regular basis? Is this whole post a conflict of interest?
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Captain Obvious, At
10 January 2008 23:39
Dear Captain Obviously-missed-the-fucking-point,
No. Thanks for playing.
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Sam Cox, At
11 January 2008 07:14
Fuck. I'm too whacked to even work out what you guys are talking about. I'm going for a drive to look for some crystal meth. And one of those eyeball thingies to inject it into.
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Tom Stoner, At
14 January 2008 17:26
RON PAUL 2008
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Anonymous, At
14 January 2008 20:14
RON PAUL GEORGE RINGO 2008
The people have spoken. Next post about RP.
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Sam Cox, At
15 January 2008 07:26
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